tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-398306886535609076.post8887887108585450340..comments2023-06-22T07:55:26.222-06:00Comments on The Corner Table: Film, TV, Video Games & Comics: Inner Child vs Inner Adult on TransformersMarcus Varnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18415626979507168374noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-398306886535609076.post-8881789786854724312007-07-10T12:03:00.000-06:002007-07-10T12:03:00.000-06:00I didn't even let my Inner Adult into the theater....I didn't even let my Inner Adult into the theater. If I did, I'd have gone home and tried to write my own script that 1) made sense, 2) had less humans, and 3) worked somehow within the canon of the original story.<BR/><BR/>But therein lies my problem.<BR/><BR/>1) It's a story about transformable robots from another planet. How could it possibly make LESS sense? But then you start thinking of other fantastical movies that at least didn't insult you by asking that you not only suspend your disbelief, but that you never reactivate it again.<BR/><BR/>2) You have to have humans. The first one did, but they were the Doctor Who companions, the Scooby and Shaggy, the Greek chorus, the Artoo and Threepio. They provided a link to humanity. As much as the fanboy might like nothing but robots on an alien world, you subconsciously can't identify with them unless there's an onscreen representative asking the questions and making the mistakes for you. Or so I've been told. But I agree that all we needed was Sam and his parents. I don't get why the love interest couldn't have been the Aussie code breaker. I don't get why Turturro even signed up for this role, it was almost embarrassing.<BR/><BR/>3) In the G1 series there was no All Spark, or Cube of Life or even The Matrix of Leadership, that all came later and in different iterations of the story. To make any of this fit within all versions would have been impossible, but I'm having a hard time remembering from the movie why the cube was so important to saving humanity. I liked it better when the Decepticons were just stealing energy. It was simple, it was tangible and we could identify with it. Whatever this was, it was overdone.<BR/><BR/>But I can't do this, I can't sit here and remake the movie in my head or else I'll go insane and hate myself. Batman Begins was a really great movie, but as soon as I realize that the super weapon at the end should have vaporized humans who are mostly water, I lose the love for the film. I'm going to try, but I'm going to have a hard time thinking of any action/adventure/sci-fi/fantasy blockbuster type movie in which you don't at any point ask, "Why didn't they just do this?"Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00339562410402473387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-398306886535609076.post-87011246855141675562007-07-10T08:40:00.000-06:002007-07-10T08:40:00.000-06:00Braedon, here's some other inner adult criticisms:...Braedon, here's some other inner adult criticisms: <BR/><BR/>If Megatron had been held since the early 20th century, with less advanced technology, why did the Decepticons wait until 2007, when the humans actually have the technology to prevent their scheme, to find out where Megatron was and free? It probably would have been easier during the Depression, WWII, or any other time before the new millennium. <BR/><BR/>Why in blazes would Megatron imprint the coordinates for the All-Spark on some human's glasses? <BR/><BR/>And how would the Decepticons know to look for the glasses of all things if Megatron had been frozen and out of contact with his compadres for two thousand years? Is that normal Decepticon protocol? "Remember, if Megatron ever gets lost, search for a pair of earthling spectacles that will be imprinted with the directions to an all-powerful Rubix cube." <BR/><BR/>For that matter, why was Bumblebee fooling around with getting Sam some lovin when he knew that Sam had the glasses in his possession? Uh, hello, the fate of the whole galaxy hangs in the balance, and you're wasting time trying to get some earthling teenager some nookie? <BR/><BR/>And, as for the Autobots crashing down comet-like into Los Angeles, Bay just wanted to have meteors. He loves meteors (and, I might, is quite adept at visualizing the destruction that ensues when they crash down to the earth). This sequence existed for nothing more than pure visual fancy, whether or not it made any sense. <BR/><BR/>We could say 'Why not?' about any bad filmmaking decision, but I'll humor you and tell you why not: Because obviously earth is crawling with Decepticons already. Why would they leave Bumblebee alone to contend with a tank, a helicopter, a giant scorpion, Starscream, a construction crane thing, a killer cop car, and even the possibility of Megatron himself? I seriously doubt that the real Optimus (like, not the one who gets his trash kicked by Megatron) would reason, "Well, it's true that the fate of the universe is at stake here, the omnipotent All-Spark is within the Decepticons grasp, the key to locating it is being held by some clueless teenager, and my arch-nemesis is being held by an inferior race of sub-intelligence, but let's just leave mute Bumblebee to handle it. We've got more important battles to wage." <BR/><BR/>Inner Child says, "Just enjoy the ride. Forget all of those plot-, uh, I mean, potholes."<BR/><BR/>Inner Adult responds, "I want my Transformers done right. You're my inner child, not my inner idiot. We deserve better than this."<BR/><BR/>Inner Child: Sigh...Marcus Varnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18415626979507168374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-398306886535609076.post-59119117647461011342007-07-10T03:25:00.000-06:002007-07-10T03:25:00.000-06:00I didn't have any of the inner child moments. I wa...I didn't have any of the inner child moments. I was sitting though this movie thinking that it was pretty lame. I couldn't tell what was going on in the fight scenes, I had no idea that one of them died, nothing they did made sense. If the comics and cartoon were nothing else, they were logical within their fictional setting. Space robots dont make sense but if you accept space robots in the series they arent going to do the same stupid things that happened in this movie. None of that computer hacking made sense. The robot makes a sound and that begins a wireless download of whatever he wants? And within that sound there is a hidden (written) message. I didn't like this movie. To make it good all they needed to do was ditch the plot and the humans and have a big long fight between the robots in a desert of somehting with that hot chick watching. Interms of action movies this summer this doesn't touch die hard.Noel Hoskinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18362725876200077973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-398306886535609076.post-53779592153138327652007-07-09T18:04:00.000-06:002007-07-09T18:04:00.000-06:00This is EXACTLY how I felt about the movie.This is EXACTLY how I felt about the movie.A Helwehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09621990166864503047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-398306886535609076.post-32554147540529203652007-07-09T17:59:00.000-06:002007-07-09T17:59:00.000-06:00Well, i agree with the adult dialog on some points...Well, i agree with the adult dialog on some points, (like the dead jazz thing. That was kinda disturbing..) but others, no. Perhaps its because i didn't watch them when i was really young. I'm to young to have seen the original seasons, and i didn't have a tv till i was 12 or something. The only transformers tv shows i have seen are some of the more modern ones, like transformers:energon or something when i was about 13-14.<BR/><BR/>I agree about the girl's character. Not much there for a lot of the movie. A bit of character development later on, but still seems to just be there for the looks.<BR/><BR/>The crazy cop and the crazy sector 7 guy where over the top, and seemed forced. They could have left the cop, but i reckon chuck out the sector 7 guy. He actually reminds me of the crazy scientist in area 51 in independence day.<BR/><BR/>Ok, autobot entrance. If i remember correctly, the autobots knew what had happened to megatron, and how important sam was(ok, his glasses, but hey), so had sent bumblebee to protect sam/glases, while the rest of the autobots under optimus' command where off fighting other battles in their war with the deceptions. When some of the decepticons tracked down megatron, bumblebee signaled the autobots that trouble was at hand, and they came to earth. As for the asteroids, why not? How would you have done it?<BR/><BR/>I don't know the original characters, but the ones in the movie did kinda annoy me a bit. As for them being hostile to humans, this was a quite good change in my book. It made it more realistic. The autobots had no history with humans, they where not friends at that point. They where there to fight the decepticons, not protect a less advanced race of squishy humans. Except for optimus, of course. This made the decepticons/autobots conflict more believable, as it was not the plain ultimate evil vs ultimate good.<BR/><BR/>Yes, the suspended in ice thing was total trash. But hey. Its a movie.<BR/><BR/>Yes, the trip to LA was the stupidest move is movie history.<BR/><BR/>AS for the war scene camera work, i liked it. It was over done in some places, but most of the time, having a realistic camera is essential to those kinds of scenes.<BR/><BR/>I don't know what happened in original transformers, but in the ones i watched, they autobots quite often where matched or even "beaten" by deceptions, or those beast ones. AS the series would go on, they enemies would get worse and worse, until they where replaced or upgraded, and it would start again. And, in the series' i watched, Megatron was always more powerful than optimus. There was always some almost Deus ex machina that allowed optimus to either beat megatron or at least stop the fight. Like exactly what happened here.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, thats my views on it.<BR/><BR/>---BraedonBraedonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06486005542117447715noreply@blogger.com